Instruments / Drums: Difference between revisions

Line 18:

[http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3976055944/m/1441055631?r=1441055631#1441055631 the original discussion] ← is highly recommended.

=== ~~Out of Phase Condenser Microphones - Not Recommended~~ ===

=== Sources for the Cables ===

Hilmar-at-Bose talks about ~~Wiring Two Condenser microphones with a Y cord~~<ref>[http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8566055944/m/2711064151?r=2721044351#2721044351 Hilmar-at-Bose talks about out of phase ~~condenser microphones~~]</ref>

Hilmar-at-Bose talks about buying an out-of-phase adapter.<ref>[http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8566055944/m/2711064151?r=2721044351#2721044351 Hilmar-at-Bose talks about buying an out-of-phase adapter]</ref>

I would NOT recommend the out-of-phase Y adapter (or any kind of Y-adapter for that matter) with condenser mics. These mics have build in preamplifiers and connecting the outputs directly will present the mics with the wrong input impedance.

The Y-adapters are pretty rare, I don't think you can buy them on line. You can buy an ordinary 2-female/1-male XLR Y adapter like [http://www.audiopile.net/products/Mic_Instr_Cables/MP_Adaptor_Cbls/Two-fers/YFMM_and_YMFF/YFMM_and_YMFF_cutsheet.asp YMFF] type

Line 31:

Line 30:

[[Image:CA-301_male_200w.jpg]]

Again, I would only recommend the adapter for dynamic microphones (like for example a Shure SM57). If you want to use KSM109s (which are nice microphones), you may have to use a little mini-mixer to combine the microphone signals. You can still use the XLR phase inverter on one channel to get the cancellation effect. The 109s should work for bear field as well as for overhead. For near-field you might have to engage the -15 dB pad on the mics.

=== Out of Phase Condenser Microphones - Not Recommended ===

Hilmar-at-Bose talks about Wiring Two Condenser microphones with a Y cord<ref>[http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8566055944/m/2711064151?r=2721044351#2721044351 Hilmar-at-Bose talks about out of phase condenser microphones]</ref>

I would NOT recommend the out-of-phase Y adapter (or any kind of Y-adapter for that matter) with condenser mics. These mics have build in preamplifiers and connecting the outputs directly will present the mics with the wrong input impedance.

Again, I would only recommend the adapter for dynamic microphones (like for example a Shure SM57). If you want to use KSM109s (which are nice microphones), you may have to use a little mini-mixer to combine the microphone signals. You can still use the XLR phase inverter on one channel to get the cancellation effect. The 109s should work for bear field as well as for overhead. For near-field you might have to engage the -15 dB pad on the microphones.

----

[[Category:Drums]]

[[~~category~~:~~Drums~~]]

[[Category:Instruments]]

[[~~category~~:~~Instruments~~]]

[[Category:Phase]]]

----

</noinclude>

@@ Line 18: / Line 18: @@
 [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3976055944/m/1441055631?r=1441055631#1441055631 the original discussion] &larr; is highly recommended.
-=== Out of Phase Condenser Microphones - Not Recommended ===
+=== Sources for the Cables ===
-Hilmar-at-Bose talks about Wiring Two Condenser microphones with a Y cord<ref>[http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8566055944/m/2711064151?r=2721044351#2721044351 Hilmar-at-Bose talks about out of phase condenser microphones]</ref>
+Hilmar-at-Bose talks about buying  an out-of-phase adapter.<ref>[http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8566055944/m/2711064151?r=2721044351#2721044351 Hilmar-at-Bose talks about buying  an out-of-phase adapter]</ref>
-I would NOT recommend the out-of-phase Y adapter (or any kind of Y-adapter for that matter) with condenser mics. These mics have build in preamplifiers and connecting the outputs directly will present the mics with the wrong input impedance.
 The Y-adapters are pretty rare, I don't think you can buy them on line. You can buy an ordinary 2-female/1-male XLR Y adapter like [http://www.audiopile.net/products/Mic_Instr_Cables/MP_Adaptor_Cbls/Two-fers/YFMM_and_YMFF/YFMM_and_YMFF_cutsheet.asp YMFF] type
@@ Line 31: / Line 30: @@
 [[Image:CA-301_male_200w.jpg]]
-Again, I would only recommend the adapter for dynamic microphones (like for example a Shure SM57). If you want to use KSM109s (which are nice microphones), you may have to use a little mini-mixer to combine the microphone signals. You can still use the XLR phase inverter on one channel to get the cancellation effect. The 109s should work for bear field as well as for overhead. For near-field you might have to engage the -15 dB pad on the mics.
+=== Out of Phase Condenser Microphones - Not Recommended ===
+Hilmar-at-Bose talks about Wiring Two Condenser microphones with a Y cord<ref>[http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8566055944/m/2711064151?r=2721044351#2721044351 Hilmar-at-Bose talks about out of phase condenser microphones]</ref>
+I would NOT recommend the out-of-phase Y adapter (or any kind of Y-adapter for that matter) with condenser mics. These mics have build in preamplifiers and connecting the outputs directly will present the mics with the wrong input impedance.
+Again, I would only recommend the adapter for dynamic microphones (like for example a Shure SM57). If you want to use KSM109s (which are nice microphones), you may have to use a little mini-mixer to combine the microphone signals. You can still use the XLR phase inverter on one channel to get the cancellation effect. The 109s should work for bear field as well as for overhead. For near-field you might have to engage the -15 dB pad on the microphones.
+<noinclude>
+----
+[[Category:Drums]]
-[[category:Drums]]
+[[Category:Instruments]]
-[[category:Instruments]]
+[[Category:Phase]]]
 ----
 <references/>
+</noinclude>