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== My vocal microphone keeps encountering feedback. Is there anything I can do to stop it? ==
== What is feedback and how does it occur? ==
From  the Official Product Troubleshooting Page <ref>[http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_STATIC_PAGE_EVENT&url=/musicians/support/troubleshooting.jsp&ck=0#feedback  Official Product Troubleshooting Pages]</ref>.  
Feedback occurs when the sound from the loudspeaker (or loudspeakers if a microphone is connected to more than one) is louder at the microphone than the sound of the voice.


* Orient the microphone so that it is not pointing directly at your Cylindrical Radiator™ loudspeaker. It’s best when your system is not directly behind you- give greater than 5 feet distance between you and your system.
This fundamental fact is shown in the figure below. Note that in the diagram an L1 system is shown but the same fundamental fact is true for ANY loudspeaker.
* Try using a “close-miking” technique to increase the gain at the microphone and to reduce unwanted stage sound.
* Use the HIGH tone control knob for the microphone channel carefully. Feedback could occur when this is set too high.
* Upgrade your power stand to newer software that offer a high gain preset. see: Software Upgrading (This covers firmware update and Version 2.0 [[Presets]])
* If using a vocal effects processor, make sure that it is not contributing to the feedback problem.
* If stand -mounting a directional microphone, tilt the microphone up ten or twenty degrees off the horizon so that it is less sensitive to direct sound from the speakers.
* Try a different microphone such as a directional mic. Hypercardioid microphones work well with the system.


== How do I control feedback that I may get when using microphones? ==
[[Image:Feedback fig 1.jpg|400px|Microphone Feedback]]
From  the Official Product FAQs <ref>[http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_STATIC_PAGE_EVENT&url=/musicians/support/product_faqs.jsp&ck=0#question40 Official Product FAQs]</ref>.


Techniques that control feedback with a conventional system help with the Personalized Amplification System™ approach also.
If you understand this diagram, it is relatively easy to understand how changes in an amplification system and the room can contribute to either increasing or decreasing the likelihood of feedback.  
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* Get close to the microphone. No other technique has a big an impact on feedback. Each halving of distance is approximately another 6 dB of gain before feedback. This means that the difference between working a mic at 2 inches, and 1/4 inch is18dB!


* Use a directional microphone. Hypercardioid is better than cardioid, which is way better than omnidirectional. All sound waves impinging on the microphone from a direction other than the intended signal is "noise" and will lower the threshold of feedback.


* Use as few open microphones as possible. When a microphone is not in use, turn it off.


* When stand mounting a directional microphone, tilt the microphone up ten or twenty degrees off the horizon so that it is less sensitive to direct sound from the speakers.


* Use the HIGH tone control knob for the microphone channel carefully. Feedback could occur when this is set too high.
== Techniques For Reducing Feedback ==
=== Gain Staging ===
Your setup should always begin with good gain staging and with microphones, that starts with [[#Close Microphone Technique|great microphone technique]]. After that, you can consider [[##Gain_Staging_2|gain staging your equipment]].
 
 
=== Close Microphone Technique ===
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=== Vocal Strength ===
In the feedback diagram at the top, it is clear that other things being equal, vocal strength related directly to how loud a system will play before feedback. Said another way, a low-output singer is more likely to experience feedback for a given desired level in the room than a high-output singer.
 
=== Directional Microphones ===
==== Principles ====
Use a directional microphone. [[Microphone Directionality#Supercardioid_/_Hypercardioid|Hypercardioid]] is better than [[Microphone Directionality#Cardioid|cardioid]], which is better than [[Microphone Directionality#Omnidirectional Microphone|omnidirectional]]. All sound waves impinging on the microphone from a direction other than the intended signal is "noise" and will lower the threshold of feedback.
 
Directional microphones "collect" less sound from directions other than what they're supposed to amplify (the voice, or an instrument) and hence are less likely to feed back.
 
In addition, most directional microphones have a strong behavior called [[Proximity Effect|proximity effect]]. This is the strong buildup of bass and low-mid response as the source (say the voice) to microphone distance decreases. For microphones intended to sound natural when the voice is very close -- say one of a number of popular stage vocal microphones -- what this means is that low-to-middle frequencies from sources at a distance, including loudspeakers being used to amplify the voice, are largely rejected by the microphone. This is a real plus in terms of avoiding microphone feedback.
 
Conversely, an omnidirectional microphone (equal sensitivity to sound coming from any direction) has no proximity effect. This is an advantage often in the studio where the engineer wants consistent tone regardless of distance. But it's a disadvantage on stage in terms of feedback. An omnidirectional mic collects more sound that's not the target, and because it has no proximity effect is more susceptible to feedback at low-to-mid frequencies than a directional mic.
====Omnidirectional and Unidirectional Microphones====
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=== Effects ===
If you are using vocal effects like reverb, chorus, or delay, turn them off until you can get sufficient [[Gain Before Feedback|gain before feedback]] to get performance level volume. Then add the effects back into the signal chain (one at a time) so you can be aware of the individual impacts that each effect is having on feedback.
==== TC Helicon Vocal Processors ====
If you are using a TC-Helicon vocal processor and you have the '''Tone''' processing on, you should not use a T1® Microphone Preset. Using both at the same time can reduce your gain before feedback. For more detail see [[:Category:TC-Helicon|TC-Helicon]].


=== Monitor Placement ===
{{Monitor Placement}}


== Microphone on a Stand ==
=== Open Microphones ===
Here's a sketch of setting up a microphone on stand.
Use as few open microphones as possible.  


[[Image:MicGoodBad.gif]]
:Note that each time the number of open mics in a sound system is doubled (1 to 2, 2 to 4, 4 to 8, etc.), the overall gain [before feedback] of the sound system drops by 3 dB. This means that more open mics equals less gain in the PA system.<ref>[https://www.shure.com/en-US/performance-production/louder/feedback-fact-and-fiction Shure - Feedback Facts and Fiction]</ref>


When a microphone is not in use, if possible, turn it off. If you have a ToneMatch mixer consider using the [[T1_ToneMatch®_Audio_Engine_/_Tips_%26_Tricks#Feedback:_Comp_Gate_.2F_Noise_Gate|noise gate]] to do this automatically.


=== Other general notes ===
=== EQ and Tone Controls ===
Use the high-frequency tone control for the microphone channel carefully. Feedback could occur when this is set too high.


* All players should be playing / singing through the Bose System closest to them
=== Instrument Pickups ===
* Every doubling of distance between the microphone and the singer reduces gain-before-feedback by a factor of 4. The difference between 1/2 inch and an inch can be significant.
Wherever possible, acoustic instruments should use pickups instead of microphones. Pickup systems provide much higher [[Gain Before Feedback|gain before feedback]] than microphones.
* Wherever possible "acoustic" instruments should use pickups instead of microphones.   This is important because many players find it a struggle to keep a consistant and close distance between the microphone and their instrument. Also, an instrument can be a source of feedback as it resonates with the amplified sound.
* Another (low prority) design guide-line could be to keep open mics as far apart as possible. Neighboring systems with open mics can mututally decrease gain-before-feedback


Using pickup can overcome the struggle to keep a consistent and close distance between the microphone and an instrument. Also, an instrument can be a source of feedback as it resonates with the amplified sound.


=== Distance Between Microphones ===
Another (low priority) design guide-line could be to keep open microphones as far apart as possible. Neighboring systems with open microphones can mutually decrease [[Gain Before Feedback|gain before feedback]].


== Techniques specific to the {{L1 family}} ==


==== Handling the Microphone ====
=== The Benefit of ToneMatch Presets ===
shure.com notes <ref>[http://www.shure.com/shurenotes/how_june2004/default.asp Miking Live Vocals - from shure.com]</ref>
A microphone that is not tonally balanced requires expertise and sophisticated equipment to equalize optimally. ToneMatch takes the guesswork out of getting studio-quality sound from a microphone connected to an L1 system. Equalization attempted by those not necessarily skilled in the art, or with tone controls that are not sophisticated enough, can leave peaks in the tonal response of the microphone -- peaks that are more likely to invite feedback.


For this reason, whenever possible, use a microphone with a ToneMatch preset.


Seems like a pretty natural thing, doesn't it? But how your vocalists handle the mic has a major effect on the resulting sound. It may look great, but your tech team won't get the sound they want when your soloist holds a microphone an arm's length from her mouth.
=== Gain Staging ===
==== L1 Pro and S1 Pro/Pro+ ====
When you sing or play at the loudest you will perform, the channel light should be solid green. Occasional flickers of red are okay. But if you see solid red, turn down the volume. Important: Use [[#Close Microphone Technique|close-microphone technique]]. The farther you are from the microphone, the greater the likelihood of feedback.


=== Why? ===
==== T4S/T8S Gain Staging ====
{{T4S/T8S Gain Staging}}


The first reason is the inverse square law. If you hold your mic a half-inch from your lips it receives a given amount of sound energy from your voice. Move it twice as far-one inch-and it receives one-fourth as much energy. That extra half -inch takes away three-quarters of the efficiency of your sound system. While good mic technique involves "working" the microphone, singers that fully extend their arms when reaching for that climax, are usually doing it for dramatic effect. Small changes in distance from the mouth can result in very dramatic changes in sound level.
==== {{T1}} ====
{{:T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine / Gain Staging a Microphone}}


Second: When you move the mic away from your lips, you must turn up the microphone level at the mixer to be heard, and more unwanted sound enters the mic. When sound from a monitor speaker enters the mic, it instantly becomes the earsplitting screech we know as feedback. Keeping the mic close to your mouth minimizes feedback.


* If you are using the {{T1}}, the principles are the same as shown on the video: simply substitute the [[T1_ToneMatch%C2%AE_Audio_Engine#Set_Input_Trim|trim]] on the {{T1r}} for the trim on the Classic or Model I. {{T1 icon}}


See the whole article: [http://www.shure.com/shurenotes/how_june2004/default.asp Miking Live Vocals]
Your first adjustment for any input to your {{T1}} is the Trim setting. The exact position of the Trim will vary depending on signal strength of your input source. The correct setting for any particular source may be different from your other sources.  


== Other References ==
[[Image:T1TrimPots.png|T1® Trim Pots]]  
* [http://www.shure.com/stellent/groups/public/@gms_gmi_web_ug/documents/web_resource/us_pro_mics_for_music_sound_ea.pdf Microphone Techniques for Live Sound Reinforcement] Shure Educational Publication 2006 39 pages - pdf format
- [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/5711082304/us_pro_mics_for_music_sound_ea.pdf  alternate source for above]


[[User:ST|ST]] 15:46, 22 August 2006 (GMT-7)
Take two minutes to watch this video by clicking on the picture below.
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* If you are using an {{Classic}} or {{Model I}} follow the instructions exactly as shown in the video. 
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===== Set Up Your Source =====
Set your source at the maximum that it will be when performing.
* Microphone
:Sing directly into the microphone using close microphone technique (lips just brushing the windscreen). Sing as loudly as you will sing during your performance. You want to set the Trim to work at your maximum volume.
* Instrument
:Turn your input as high as it is likely to go during performance.


===== Set Trim Controls =====
Turn the Trim setting up until the Trim Light is solid green with occasional flickers of yellow. Use the Trim lights as your guide. (The exact position of the Trim knob is not important).


[[Image:TrimlightsOK.gif]]


If you see flickers of red (below), turn the Trim down. You are definitely nearing or in compression. Turn the Trim down until there are no red flickers.


[[Image:TrimlightsNo.gif]]


Bill-at-Bose <ref>[http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7521050644/m/9821050644?r=7191052284#7191052284 Bill-at-Bose Talks about Gain Staging in the Bose® Musicians Community Message Boards]</ref> talks about setting the gain on a {{T1}}.


:One difference in gain staging the T1 and the Classic is that the T1 has a three-stage trim LED. It lights up green when signal is present, yellow when you are getting pretty loud (8 to 10 dB of headroom left), and red when you dangerously close to or at full scale.


:In a way, the yellow trim on the T1 is similar to how you treat the red on the Classic. Some yellow during peaks is good on the T1, just like some red on the Classic is good.


:If the T1 trim is going red, you should back off, you are definitely nearing or in compression.


:A really helpful feature on the T1 is to go to the Prefs/Output Level menu, and see where you are relative to maximum output.


==== ToneMatch Mixer Trim Controls ====


{{:T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine / Trim Pots}}


=== Tilt the Mic Up ===
{{Classic icon}} {{Model I icon}} {{Model II icon}}
* All players should be playing / singing through the {{L1}} closest to them.
* If you are using a {{T1}} it is often possible to use the parametric EQ section to notch the frequency that is causing feedback. You can find details in the article: [[Using the T1® to Control Microphone Feedback]]
* If you are using a {{T1}} try using the Comp Gate section to effectively turn off microphones that aren't being used. You can find details in the article: [[Feedback / T1 ToneMatch® Audio Engine / Comp Gate]]
* When stand mounting a directional microphone, tilt the microphone up ten or twenty degrees off the horizon so that it is less sensitive to direct sound from the speakers.
* In the feedback diagram at the top, using a directional microphone tilted up and away from the Cylindrical Radiator&reg;  means getting less sound from the loudspeaker which translates to more gain without feedback.
** {{Compact icon}} Note: with the [[Compact]] be careful that you are NOT pointing the microphone directly at the Speaker Array.


[[Image:MicGoodBad.gif]]


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=== Notch Out a Problem Frequency ===
Use the ParaEQ ({{T1}}, {{T4S}}/{{T8S}}) to Notch out a problem frequency


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Sometimes the geometry and configuration of the mic(s) will cause one particular frequency to be reinforced more than all the others, relatively independent of the positioning of the microphone. By identifying that particular frequency, one can use the T1® to reduce ("notch out") just that one particular "problem" frequency.
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* A [[{{PAGENAME}}##Supercardioid_.2F_Hypercardioid|supercardioid or hypercardioid microphone]]
* A microphone that has a [[ToneMatch]] preset
* For any L1 model or any ToneMatch mixer, you can use a condenser or dynamic microphone.  
* For an [[S1 Pro+]] / [[S1 Pro]] use a [[Dynamic Microphones|Dynamic Microphone]]. The S1 Pro family to not support condenser microphones
* For more insights, please see [[Review / Microphone / Various|Microphone Reviews]].


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