Panaray® MB4 Modular Bass Loudspeaker: Difference between revisions

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[[Image:MB4.jpg|right|Panaray® MB4 Modular Bass Loudspeaker]]

== Bose Questions and Answers ==

Q: Can I use the {{Bose}} Panaray® MB4 Modular Bass Loudspeaker with the {{Classic}}, {{Model I}} or {{Model II}}?

Hilmar-at-Bose <ref>[http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6616049564/m/8906058385?r=4481004323#4481004323 message board post March 2004]</ref>

Hilmar-at-Bose <ref>Hilmar-at-Bose [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6616049564/m/8906058385?r=4481004323#4481004323 message board post March 2004]</ref>

:The MB-4 can not be used as a replacement for the B1. The impedance and EQ do not match particularly well and in general we recommend using B1s.

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Hilmar-at-Bose <ref>[http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3976055944/m/2806075005?r=4026053025#4026053025 message board post December 2003]</ref>

Hilmar-at-Bose <ref>Hilmar-at-Bose [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3976055944/m/2806075005?r=4026053025#4026053025 message board post December 2003]</ref>

:I would NOT recommend connecting an MB4. Its impedance doesn’t match the power stand particularly well (although you can safely hook up 2 MB4) and the bass output you may get is probably similar to that of a single B1, which is about half the weight and half the size. As Ken & Thomas have already pointed the power stand can sense the presence of a B1 and adjust the EQ accordingly. That is not the case for the MB4 so the overall system voicing will be somewhat off.

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[[Media:MB4Single_TDS.pdf|MB4 Product Data Sheet]] - pdf file

Note: The MB4 appears in the history of the development of the {{L1}}. See: [[From_Prototype_to_Product#From_Prototype_to_Product.23The_Invention_of_the_B1_Bass_Module|The Invention of the B1]]

== MB4 Owner's Perspective==

:If the opinion of one who has tried them (MB4s) in most every configuration imaginable with L1s, it's not worth the hassle. I have eight B1s and would rather handle all of them than the MB4s. It only took a couple of times comparing the ease of loading the B1 in the back of an SUV to the effort of lifting the MB4 over the same height to convince me the B1 is better suited to my needs.

:Once you have adjusted to the spectral balance of the L1/B1 there really is nothing to gain by using the MB4, and there is the chance that you upset the spectral balance to the point of dislike. Most Bose products seem to work best when used as designed. The MB4 has a recommended eq depending on which panaray speaker it is combined with. You must have a panaray controller or amp with eq card to access those eq curves.

:Of course there will always be arguments for and against the need for special eq as it pertains to Bose speakers, but, if you enjoy the way the L1s sound, then you are already a fan of their way of doing things so why mess with it?

:The B1s and the power stand are designed to use a 4 conductor cable so the power stand can read the number of speakers attached. The MB4 uses a 2 conductor cable so there is no information for the detection circuit. How important this is I really don't know, but there is more to the DSP than just impedence matching.

:When I was using the MB4s (with a Panaray system) I used an amp with considerable more power than the 250 watts provided by the powerstand or the A1.

:When I bought my first L1 I really wanted to use my MB4s because I felt like I already owned the equivalent of $1200 worth of B1s. In the end I trusted the judgement of those engineers <quoted> above, and never looked back.

Source:

Oldghm <ref>MB4 Owner talks about his experiences [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/301107819/m/8420071336?r=3310046336#3310046336 message board post September 2011]</ref>

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 [[Image:MB4.jpg|right|Panaray® MB4 Modular Bass Loudspeaker]]
+== Bose Questions and Answers ==
 Q: Can I use the {{Bose}} Panaray® MB4 Modular Bass Loudspeaker with the {{Classic}}, {{Model I}} or {{Model II}}?
-Hilmar-at-Bose <ref>[http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6616049564/m/8906058385?r=4481004323#4481004323 message board post March 2004]</ref>
+Hilmar-at-Bose <ref>Hilmar-at-Bose [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6616049564/m/8906058385?r=4481004323#4481004323 message board post March 2004]</ref>
 :The MB-4 can not be used as a replacement for the B1. The impedance and EQ do not match particularly well and in general we recommend using B1s.
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-Hilmar-at-Bose <ref>[http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3976055944/m/2806075005?r=4026053025#4026053025 message board post December 2003]</ref>
+Hilmar-at-Bose <ref>Hilmar-at-Bose [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3976055944/m/2806075005?r=4026053025#4026053025 message board post December 2003]</ref>
 :I would NOT recommend connecting an MB4. Its impedance doesn’t match the power stand particularly well (although you can safely hook up 2 MB4) and the bass output you may get is probably similar to that of a single B1, which is about half the weight and half the size. As Ken & Thomas have already pointed the power stand can sense the presence of a B1 and adjust the EQ accordingly. That is not the case for the MB4 so the overall system voicing will be somewhat off.
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 [[Media:MB4Single_TDS.pdf|MB4 Product Data Sheet]] - pdf file
+Note: The MB4 appears in the history of the development of the {{L1}}. See: [[From_Prototype_to_Product#From_Prototype_to_Product.23The_Invention_of_the_B1_Bass_Module|The Invention of the B1]]
+== MB4 Owner's Perspective==
+:If the opinion of one who has tried them (MB4s) in most every configuration imaginable with L1s, it's not worth the hassle. I have eight B1s and would rather handle all of them than the MB4s. It only took a couple of times comparing the ease of loading the B1 in the back of an SUV to the effort of lifting the MB4 over the same height to convince me the B1 is better suited to my needs.
+:Once you have adjusted to the spectral balance of the L1/B1 there really is nothing to gain by using the MB4, and there is the chance that you upset the spectral balance to the point of dislike. Most Bose products seem to work best when used as designed. The MB4 has a recommended eq depending on which panaray speaker it is combined with. You must have a panaray controller or amp with eq card to access those eq curves.
+:Of course there will always be arguments for and against the need for special eq as it pertains to Bose speakers, but, if you enjoy the way the L1s sound, then you are already a fan of their way of doing things so why mess with it?
+:The B1s and the power stand are designed to use a 4 conductor cable so the power stand can read the number of speakers attached. The MB4 uses a 2 conductor cable so there is no information for the detection circuit. How important this is I really don't know, but there is more to the DSP than just impedence matching.
+:When I was using the MB4s (with a Panaray system) I used an amp with considerable more power than the 250 watts provided by the powerstand or the A1.
+:When I bought my first L1 I really wanted to use my MB4s because I felt like I already owned the equivalent of $1200 worth of B1s. In the end I trusted the judgement of those engineers <quoted> above, and never looked back.
+Source:
+Oldghm <ref>MB4 Owner talks about his experiences [http://bose.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/301107819/m/8420071336?r=3310046336#3310046336 message board post September 2011]</ref>
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