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Considerations

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	** Classic: {{Classic}} 750 Watts of power and therefore requires a good input power supply that is rated at least 1400 Watts. As a general guideline, you should budget at least 1000 Watt per system.		** Classic: {{Classic}} 750 Watts of power and therefore requires a good input power supply that is rated at least 1400 Watts. As a general guideline, you should budget at least 1000 Watt per system.

			=== Pure Sine Wave Inverter ===
	* Only use '''pure sine wave inverter'''<ref>inverter [http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/inverter-generator-advantages Honda article on inverter generators], [http://www.yamahaef2000is.com/conventional_generator_vs_inverter_generator.html Yamaha article on inverter generators]</ref> type generators. These generators will provide clean sine wave power that makes them safe for use with sensitive equipment such as computers, laptops, and the {{L1}}. Generators of the type commonly used in construction should be avoided.		* Only use '''pure sine wave inverter'''<ref>inverter [http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/inverter-generator-advantages Honda article on inverter generators], [http://www.yamahaef2000is.com/conventional_generator_vs_inverter_generator.html Yamaha article on inverter generators]</ref> type generators. These generators will provide clean sine wave power that makes them safe for use with sensitive equipment such as computers, laptops, and the {{L1}}. Generators of the type commonly used in construction should be avoided.

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	* Beware if you are at a gig where you must plug into a generator that also has something with a large compressor (like a refrigerator or freezer) plugged into it. When the compressor shuts off, there may be an excess of energy going through the line causing a significant spike in voltage going to the {{L1}}. Conversely, when the compressor starts up, there may be a significant power drop-off from the {{L1}}.		* Beware if you are at a gig where you must plug into a generator that also has something with a large compressor (like a refrigerator or freezer) plugged into it. When the compressor shuts off, there may be an excess of energy going through the line causing a significant spike in voltage going to the {{L1}}. Conversely, when the compressor starts up, there may be a significant power drop-off from the {{L1}}.

			=== Modified Sine Wave Inverters ===

			Inverters can be pretty abusive to many systems. Many create a “stepped sine wave” or "modified sine wave" (the red trace below). Those edges can wreak havoc in many electronic systems, especially switching amps and other circuits with critical timing requirements. They can also cause microprocessors to misbehave. Further, these waveforms can also age electrolytic caps much faster than true sine waves. We do not recommend the use of modified sine wave battery inverters for any electronics you care about.<ref>Modified sine wave inverters are not recommended. Source: Bose Engineering</ref>.

			[[File:Stepped Sine Wave.jpg]]

	== Recommendation/Review ==		== Recommendation/Review ==

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Modified Sine Wave Inverters

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	== Battery Power Not Recommended for {{Classic}} ==		== Battery Power Not Recommended for {{Classic}} ==
	{{#lst:PS1 Powerstand\|Battery Power}}		{{#lst:PS1 Powerstand\|Battery Power}}

	~~=== Modified Sine Wave Inverters ===~~

	Inverters can be pretty abusive to many systems. Many create a “stepped sine wave” or "modified sine wave" (the red trace below). Those edges can wreak havoc in many electronic systems, especially switching amps and other circuits with critical timing requirements. They can also cause microprocessors to misbehave. Further, these waveforms can also age electrolytic caps much faster than true sine waves. We do not recommend the use of modified sine wave battery inverters for any electronics you care about.<ref>Modified sine wave inverters are not recommended. Source: Bose Engineering</ref>.

	~~[[File:Stepped Sine Wave.jpg]]~~

	== Acknowledgements ==		== Acknowledgements ==

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Considerations

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	** Classic: {{Classic}} 750 Watts of power and therefore requires a good input power supply that is rated at least 1400 Watts. As a general guideline, you should budget at least 1000 Watt per system.		** Classic: {{Classic}} 750 Watts of power and therefore requires a good input power supply that is rated at least 1400 Watts. As a general guideline, you should budget at least 1000 Watt per system.

	* Only use inverter<ref>inverter [http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/inverter-generator-advantages Honda article on inverter generators], [http://www.yamahaef2000is.com/conventional_generator_vs_inverter_generator.html Yamaha article on inverter generators]</ref> type generators. These generators will provide clean sine wave power that makes them safe for use with sensitive equipment such as computers, laptops, and the {{L1}}. Generators of the type commonly used in construction should be avoided.		* Only use '''pure sine wave inverter'''<ref>inverter [http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/inverter-generator-advantages Honda article on inverter generators], [http://www.yamahaef2000is.com/conventional_generator_vs_inverter_generator.html Yamaha article on inverter generators]</ref> type generators. These generators will provide clean sine wave power that makes them safe for use with sensitive equipment such as computers, laptops, and the {{L1}}. Generators of the type commonly used in construction should be avoided.

	* If performing with the {{L1}} at a gig where an unfamiliar generator is being used, it is advisable to bring a multimeter and monitor the output voltage of the generator. If the reading is above 140 V or below 100 V, then the Bose system may not work reliably.		* If performing with the {{L1}} at a gig where an unfamiliar generator is being used, it is advisable to bring a multimeter and monitor the output voltage of the generator. If the reading is above 140 V or below 100 V, then the Bose system may not work reliably.

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Battery / Inverter

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	{{#lst:PS1 Powerstand\|Battery Power}}		{{#lst:PS1 Powerstand\|Battery Power}}

	=== ~~Battery / Inverter~~ ===		=== Modified Sine Wave Inverters ===

	Inverters can be pretty abusive to many systems. Many create a “stepped sine wave” or "modified sine wave" (the red trace below). Those edges can wreak havoc in many electronic systems, especially switching amps and other circuits with critical timing requirements. They can also cause microprocessors to misbehave. Further, these waveforms can also age electrolytic caps much faster than true sine waves. We do not recommend the use of modified sine wave battery inverters for any electronics you care about<ref>Modified sine wave inverters are not recommended. Source: Bose Engineering</ref>.		Inverters can be pretty abusive to many systems. Many create a “stepped sine wave” or "modified sine wave" (the red trace below). Those edges can wreak havoc in many electronic systems, especially switching amps and other circuits with critical timing requirements. They can also cause microprocessors to misbehave. Further, these waveforms can also age electrolytic caps much faster than true sine waves. We do not recommend the use of modified sine wave battery inverters for any electronics you care about.<ref>Modified sine wave inverters are not recommended. Source: Bose Engineering</ref>.

	[[File:Stepped Sine Wave.jpg]]		[[File:Stepped Sine Wave.jpg]]

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Battery / Inverter

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	=== Battery / Inverter ===		=== Battery / Inverter ===

	Inverters can be pretty abusive to many systems. Many create a “stepped sine wave” (the red trace below). Those edges can wreak havoc in many electronic systems, especially switching amps and other circuits with critical timing requirements. They can also cause microprocessors to misbehave. Further, these waveforms can also age electrolytic caps much faster than true sine waves. We do not recommend the use of battery inverters for any electronics you care about<ref>Modified sine wave inverters are not recommended. Source: Bose Engineering</ref>.		Inverters can be pretty abusive to many systems. Many create a “stepped sine wave” or "modified sine wave" (the red trace below). Those edges can wreak havoc in many electronic systems, especially switching amps and other circuits with critical timing requirements. They can also cause microprocessors to misbehave. Further, these waveforms can also age electrolytic caps much faster than true sine waves. We do not recommend the use of modified sine wave battery inverters for any electronics you care about<ref>Modified sine wave inverters are not recommended. Source: Bose Engineering</ref>.

	[[File:Stepped Sine Wave.jpg]]		[[File:Stepped Sine Wave.jpg]]

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Battery / Inverter

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	=== Battery / Inverter ===		=== Battery / Inverter ===

	Inverters can be pretty abusive to many systems. Many create a “stepped sine wave” (the red trace below). Those edges can wreak havoc in many electronic systems, especially switching amps and other circuits with critical timing requirements. They can also cause microprocessors to misbehave. Further, these waveforms can also age electrolytic caps much faster than true sine waves. We do not recommend the use of battery inverters for any electronics you care about.		Inverters can be pretty abusive to many systems. Many create a “stepped sine wave” (the red trace below). Those edges can wreak havoc in many electronic systems, especially switching amps and other circuits with critical timing requirements. They can also cause microprocessors to misbehave. Further, these waveforms can also age electrolytic caps much faster than true sine waves. We do not recommend the use of battery inverters for any electronics you care about<ref>Modified sine wave inverters are not recommended. Source: Bose Engineering</ref>.

	[[File:Stepped Sine Wave.jpg]]		[[File:Stepped Sine Wave.jpg]]

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Battery Power Not Recommended for L1® Model I and II

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	== Battery Power Not Recommended for ~~L1® Model I and II~~ ==		== Battery Power for {{Model 1S}} or {{Model II}}==

			Preliminary report see: [[Portable Power Stations for L1 Systems]]




			== Battery Power Not Recommended for {{Classic}} ==
	{{#lst:PS1 Powerstand\|Battery Power}}		{{#lst:PS1 Powerstand\|Battery Power}}

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Considerations

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	If you are in a situation where you must utilize an electric generator to power the {{L1}}, there are several things to consider.		If you are in a situation where you must utilize an electric generator to power the {{L1}}, there are several things to consider.

	* Although the {{Model I}} / {{Model II}} system is very efficient, it produces 500 Watts of power and therefore requires a good input power supply that is rated at least 750-1000 Watt. ~~Guideline~~:		* Although the {{Model I}} / {{Model II}} system is very efficient, it produces 500 Watts of power and therefore requires a good input power supply that is rated at least 750-1000 Watt. Guidelines:
	** {{Model 1S}} or {{Model II}}, draws up to 750 Watts per system		** {{Model 1S}} or {{Model II}}, draws up to 750 Watts per system
	** {{Compact}} draws up to [[L1®_Compact#Battery_Power\|100 watts]]		** {{Compact}} draws up to [[L1®_Compact#Battery_Power\|100 watts]]
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	** Classic: {{Classic}} 750 Watts of power and therefore requires a good input power supply that is rated at least 1400 Watts. As a general guideline, you should budget at least 1000 Watt per system.		** Classic: {{Classic}} 750 Watts of power and therefore requires a good input power supply that is rated at least 1400 Watts. As a general guideline, you should budget at least 1000 Watt per system.

	* Only use inverter<ref>inverter [http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/inverter-generator-advantages Honda article on inverter generators], [http://www.yamahaef2000is.com/conventional_generator_vs_inverter_generator.html Yamaha article on inverter generators]</ref> type generators. These generators will provide clean sine wave power that ~~make~~ them safe for use with sensitive equipment such as computers, laptops and the {{L1}}. Generators of the type commonly used in construction should be avoided.		* Only use inverter<ref>inverter [http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/inverter-generator-advantages Honda article on inverter generators], [http://www.yamahaef2000is.com/conventional_generator_vs_inverter_generator.html Yamaha article on inverter generators]</ref> type generators. These generators will provide clean sine wave power that makes them safe for use with sensitive equipment such as computers, laptops, and the {{L1}}. Generators of the type commonly used in construction should be avoided.

	* If performing with the {{L1}} at a gig where an unfamiliar generator is being used, it is advisable to bring a multimeter and monitor the output voltage of the generator. If the reading is above 140 V or below 100 V, then the Bose system may not work reliably.		* If performing with the {{L1}} at a gig where an unfamiliar generator is being used, it is advisable to bring a multimeter and monitor the output voltage of the generator. If the reading is above 140 V or below 100 V, then the Bose system may not work reliably.

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Considerations: formatting

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	If you are in a situation where you must utilize an electric generator to power the {{L1}}, there are several things to consider.		If you are in a situation where you must utilize an electric generator to power the {{L1}}, there are several things to consider.

	* Although the {{Model I}} / {{Model II}} system is very efficient, it produces 500 Watts of power and therefore requires a good input power supply that is rated at least 750-1000 Watt. ~~As a general guideline~~, ~~you should budget at least~~ 750 Watts per system.		* Although the {{Model I}} / {{Model II}} system is very efficient, it produces 500 Watts of power and therefore requires a good input power supply that is rated at least 750-1000 Watt. Guideline:
			** {{Model 1S}} or {{Model II}}, draws up to 750 Watts per system
	** {{Compact}} draws up to [[L1®_Compact#Battery_Power\|100 watts]]		** {{Compact}} draws up to [[L1®_Compact#Battery_Power\|100 watts]]
	** {{T1}} draws up to [[L1®_Compact#Battery_Power\|100 watts]]		** {{T1}} draws up to [[L1®_Compact#Battery_Power\|100 watts]]
	** Classic: {{Classic}} 750 Watts of power and therefore requires a good input power supply that is rated at least 1400 ~~Watt~~. As a general guideline, you should budget at least 1000 Watt per system.		** Classic: {{Classic}} 750 Watts of power and therefore requires a good input power supply that is rated at least 1400 Watts. As a general guideline, you should budget at least 1000 Watt per system.

	* Only use inverter<ref>inverter [http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/inverter-generator-advantages Honda article on inverter generators], [http://www.yamahaef2000is.com/conventional_generator_vs_inverter_generator.html Yamaha article on inverter generators]</ref> type generators. These generators will provide clean sine wave power that make them safe for use with sensitive equipment such as computers, laptops and the {{L1}}. Generators of the type commonly used in construction should be avoided.		* Only use inverter<ref>inverter [http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/inverter-generator-advantages Honda article on inverter generators], [http://www.yamahaef2000is.com/conventional_generator_vs_inverter_generator.html Yamaha article on inverter generators]</ref> type generators. These generators will provide clean sine wave power that make them safe for use with sensitive equipment such as computers, laptops and the {{L1}}. Generators of the type commonly used in construction should be avoided.

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2018-10-12T18:45:12Z

sine waves

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	=== Battery / Inverter ===		=== Battery / Inverter ===

	Inverters can be pretty abusive to many systems. Many create a “stepped sine wave” (the red trace below). Those edges can wreak havoc in many electronic systems, especially switching amps and other circuits with critical timing requirements. They can also cause microprocessors to misbehave. Further, these waveforms can also age electrolytic caps much faster than true ~~sinewaves~~. We do not recommend the use of inverters for any electronics you care about.		Inverters can be pretty abusive to many systems. Many create a “stepped sine wave” (the red trace below). Those edges can wreak havoc in many electronic systems, especially switching amps and other circuits with critical timing requirements. They can also cause microprocessors to misbehave. Further, these waveforms can also age electrolytic caps much faster than true sine waves. We do not recommend the use of battery inverters for any electronics you care about.

	[[File:Stepped Sine Wave.jpg]]		[[File:Stepped Sine Wave.jpg]]