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		<title>ST: /* Settings */</title>
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		<updated>2024-08-11T02:26:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Settings&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 02:26, 11 August 2024&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l31&quot;&gt;Line 31:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 31:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=== Settings===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=== Settings===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Running five microphones on this tight stage could have been a problem, so I used these aggressive settings for the noise gates  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Running five microphones on this tight stage could have been a problem, so I used these aggressive settings for the noise gates  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Comp/Gate Noise Gate  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;;&lt;/ins&gt;Comp/Gate Noise Gate  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Thresh -35 dB  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Thresh -35 dB  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Speed 70% (slower Speed (higher value) gives a more gradual cut-off, and this may sound more natural as a singer naturally lowers their volume at times)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Speed 70% (slower Speed (higher value) gives a more gradual cut-off, and this may sound more natural as a singer naturally lowers their volume at times)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Ramp 100% (so the beginnings of phrases are allowed through by ramping up the volume quickly&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Ramp 100% (so the beginnings of phrases are allowed through by ramping up the volume quickly&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;No Reverb, Delay or other effects&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;. &lt;/del&gt;The room had enough natural reverb that there was no need to add more. On the stage, the vocals didn&#039;t sound dry or sterile without reverb because there were ample early side reflections from the stage walls  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;;&lt;/ins&gt;No Reverb, Delay or other effects  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The room had enough natural reverb that there was no need to add more. On the stage, the vocals didn&#039;t sound dry or sterile without reverb because there were ample early side reflections from the stage walls&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=== Stage Volume ===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=== Stage Volume ===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>ST: /* Room dimensions */</title>
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		<updated>2024-08-11T02:25:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Room dimensions&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Room dimensions===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;===Room dimensions===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The room is about 3000 square feet (280 square meters) and &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;around &lt;/del&gt;20 feet (6 meters) tall.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The room is about 3000 square feet (280 square meters) and &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;approximately &lt;/ins&gt;20 feet (6 meters) tall.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=== Audience===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;=== Audience===&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>ST: Created page with &quot;This is an example of a stage set up on a cave stage.  This is how it looked before we added keyboards, e-drums, a backline guitar amp (low volume, miked), and another vocal m...&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2024-08-11T02:24:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;This is an example of a stage set up on a cave stage.  This is how it looked before we added keyboards, e-drums, a backline guitar amp (low volume, miked), and another vocal m...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;This is an example of a stage set up on a cave stage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is how it looked before we added keyboards, e-drums, a backline guitar amp (low volume, miked), and another vocal microphone. As you can imagine, it was pretty tight once we got everybody on the stage. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cave Stage.jpg|600px]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Note: We did not use the loudspeakers mounted on the side walls of the stage.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Stage===&lt;br /&gt;
Here&amp;#039;s a cave stage. The stage elevation is 30&amp;quot; (.75 meters).  The back of the stage is narrower than the front, and it&amp;#039;s not very deep. (approximately 25 feet across the front, 15 feet across the back, 8 feet deep)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Sound Sources===&lt;br /&gt;
* Four vocal microphones&lt;br /&gt;
* Two electric guitars (one with a backline amp, miked. The other running through an amp modeller)&lt;br /&gt;
* Sometimes, the electric guitars played acoustic guitars (wireless to the T4S with ToneMatch Presets)&lt;br /&gt;
* Electronic drums (with monitors)&lt;br /&gt;
* Keyboard (with monitor)&lt;br /&gt;
* Electric Bass (direct to the mixer using a ToneMatch Preset)&lt;br /&gt;
* T8S mixer daisy chained to a T4S mixer - total - 12 channels available&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===L1 positions===&lt;br /&gt;
Given the limited space, I set up the two L1 Pro32s at the back corners.  I would have preferred to position them closer to the middle, but that would have encroached on the space needed for the drums and keyboard.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Room dimensions===&lt;br /&gt;
The room is about 3000 square feet (280 square meters) and around 20 feet (6 meters) tall. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Audience===&lt;br /&gt;
* Up to 150 people set up at round tables&lt;br /&gt;
* Audience is dancing, socializing, drinking&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Settings===&lt;br /&gt;
Running five microphones on this tight stage could have been a problem, so I used these aggressive settings for the noise gates &lt;br /&gt;
Comp/Gate Noise Gate &lt;br /&gt;
* Thresh -35 dB &lt;br /&gt;
* Speed 70% (slower Speed (higher value) gives a more gradual cut-off, and this may sound more natural as a singer naturally lowers their volume at times)&lt;br /&gt;
* Ramp 100% (so the beginnings of phrases are allowed through by ramping up the volume quickly&lt;br /&gt;
No Reverb, Delay or other effects. The room had enough natural reverb that there was no need to add more. On the stage, the vocals didn&amp;#039;t sound dry or sterile without reverb because there were ample early side reflections from the stage walls &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Stage Volume ===&lt;br /&gt;
We had a reasonable stage volume (not excessive) because we kept the volume low in the monitors for the keyboard and electronic drums. We miked the guitar amp.  &lt;br /&gt;
The other electric guitar ran through a guitar amp modeller to one of the L1 Pro32s. &lt;br /&gt;
The electric bass was connected directly to the other L1 Pro32 using a ToneMatch Preset.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Everything could be heard well throughout the room. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Stage Layouts]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:L1 Pro]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Feedback]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:T8S]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>ST</name></author>
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