Can I Use It as a PA - Revision history

ST at 14:38, 14 November 2010

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ST: added categories

2010-09-27T16:31:17Z

added categories

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	Note from [[User:Chris-at-Bose]]: If you do run dual mono, maintain at least 20 feet (6 metres) between the {{L1}}s. See: [[Phase Cancellation]]		Note from [[User:Chris-at-Bose]]: If you do run dual mono, maintain at least 20 feet (6 metres) between the {{L1}}s. See: [[Phase Cancellation]]

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ST: /* Avoid: Virtual Panning */ Virtual Position by Panning

2006-11-25T11:19:17Z

Avoid: Virtual Panning: Virtual Position by Panning

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	Note from [[User:Chris-at-Bose]]: If you do run dual mono, maintain at least 20 feet (6 metres) between the {{L1}}s. See: [[Phase Cancellation]]		Note from [[User:Chris-at-Bose]]: If you do run dual mono, maintain at least 20 feet (6 metres) between the {{L1}}s. See: [[Phase Cancellation]]

	=== Avoid: Virtual Panning ===		=== Avoid: Virtual Position by Panning ===
	[[Image:2L1asPAVirtualPanning.png\|thumb\|350px\|Avoid Virtual Panning\|right]]		[[Image:2L1asPAVirtualPanning.png\|thumb\|350px\|Avoid Virtual Panning\|right]]
	I thought I was being clever by trying to position everyone in the mix using the pan pots. Notice the indicators on the mixer.		I thought I was being clever by trying to position everyone in the mix using the pan pots. Notice the indicators on the mixer.

ST: experiments with image parameters and gd library

2006-11-25T11:17:50Z

experiments with image parameters and gd library

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	Scan through the messages in the {{Forum}} and you will find many postings from performers (solo, duos, with and without backing tracks as well as ensembles for four and more).		Scan through the messages in the {{Forum}} and you will find many postings from performers (solo, duos, with and without backing tracks as well as ensembles for four and more).
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	[[Image:1L1asPA.png\|thumb\|~~150px\|frame~~\|Using One L1™ plus mixer]]		[[Image:1L1asPA.png\|thumb\|350px\|Using One L1™ plus mixer]]
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	The coloured controls on the mixer are the pan pots. Shown here, the four on the left are panned hard left, and the four on the right are panned hard right.		The coloured controls on the mixer are the pan pots. Shown here, the four on the left are panned hard left, and the four on the right are panned hard right.
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	[[Image:2L1asPA.png\|~~width~~\|~~250px\|frame~~\|Using Two L1™ plus mixer]]		[[Image:2L1asPA.png\|thumb\|350px\|Using Two L1™ plus mixer]]
	\|}		\|}

	=== Avoid: Dual Mono ===		=== Avoid: Dual Mono ===
	[[Image:2L1asPADualMono.png\|~~frame~~\|~~250px~~\|Avoid Dual Mono\|right]]		[[Image:2L1asPADualMono.png\|thumb\|350px\|Avoid Dual Mono\|right]]
	Quoting Cliff-at-Bose		Quoting Cliff-at-Bose
	This particular setup is deeply ingrained in the amplified music culture as the Way We All Do Things, i.e., a PA is always set up on either side of the artists{s}, always has been. That's how we do it. Actually, this approach works better with a typical [[FOH]] system as everyone in the audience is much more aware of the system they are closer to (it's louder), due to the ubiquitous inverse-square law of sound radiation (loud up close, quiet far away). And, of course, the problems associated with this approach are discussed in endless detail throughout this forum (bleeding ears, disconnected sight/sound of the performance, nobody onstage knows how they sound in the audience, etc).		This particular setup is deeply ingrained in the amplified music culture as the Way We All Do Things, i.e., a PA is always set up on either side of the artists{s}, always has been. That's how we do it. Actually, this approach works better with a typical [[FOH]] system as everyone in the audience is much more aware of the system they are closer to (it's louder), due to the ubiquitous inverse-square law of sound radiation (loud up close, quiet far away). And, of course, the problems associated with this approach are discussed in endless detail throughout this forum (bleeding ears, disconnected sight/sound of the performance, nobody onstage knows how they sound in the audience, etc).
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	=== Avoid: Virtual Panning ===		=== Avoid: Virtual Panning ===
	[[Image:2L1asPAVirtualPanning.png\|~~width~~\|~~250px\|frame~~\|Avoid Virtual Panning\|right]]		[[Image:2L1asPAVirtualPanning.png\|thumb\|350px\|Avoid Virtual Panning\|right]]
	I thought I was being clever by trying to position everyone in the mix using the pan pots. Notice the indicators on the mixer.		I thought I was being clever by trying to position everyone in the mix using the pan pots. Notice the indicators on the mixer.

ST: /* One {{L1}} with a Mixer */

2006-11-25T11:02:32Z

One {{L1}} with a [[Mixer]]

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	Scan through the messages in the {{Forum}} and you will find many postings from performers (solo, duos, with and without backing tracks as well as ensembles for four and more).		Scan through the messages in the {{Forum}} and you will find many postings from performers (solo, duos, with and without backing tracks as well as ensembles for four and more).
	\|valign="top"\|		\|valign="top"\|
	[[Image:1L1asPA.png\|~~width~~\|~~250px~~\|frame\|Using One L1™ plus mixer]]		[[Image:1L1asPA.png\|thumb\|150px\|frame\|Using One L1™ plus mixer]]
	\|}		\|}

ST: testing image sizing

2006-11-25T10:56:58Z

testing image sizing

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	Scan through the messages in the {{Forum}} and you will find many postings from performers (solo, duos, with and without backing tracks as well as ensembles for four and more).		Scan through the messages in the {{Forum}} and you will find many postings from performers (solo, duos, with and without backing tracks as well as ensembles for four and more).
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	[[Image:1L1asPA.png\|~~frame~~\|250px\|Using One L1™ plus mixer]]		[[Image:1L1asPA.png\|width\|250px\|frame\|Using One L1™ plus mixer]]
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	The coloured controls on the mixer are the pan pots. Shown here, the four on the left are panned hard left, and the four on the right are panned hard right.		The coloured controls on the mixer are the pan pots. Shown here, the four on the left are panned hard left, and the four on the right are panned hard right.
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	[[Image:2L1asPA.png\|~~frame~~\|250px\|Using Two L1™ plus mixer]]		[[Image:2L1asPA.png\|width\|250px\|frame\|Using Two L1™ plus mixer]]
	\|}		\|}

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	=== Avoid: Virtual Panning ===		=== Avoid: Virtual Panning ===
	[[Image:2L1asPAVirtualPanning.png\|~~frame~~\|250px\|Avoid Virtual Panning\|right]]		[[Image:2L1asPAVirtualPanning.png\|width\|250px\|frame\|Avoid Virtual Panning\|right]]
	I thought I was being clever by trying to position everyone in the mix using the pan pots. Notice the indicators on the mixer.		I thought I was being clever by trying to position everyone in the mix using the pan pots. Notice the indicators on the mixer.

ST: /* Two {{L1}}s with a Mixer */ === Lesser Benefits ===

2006-11-25T08:42:57Z

Two {{L1}}s with a Mixer: === Lesser Benefits ===

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	== Two {{L1}}s with a Mixer==		== Two {{L1}}s with a Mixer==
	~~With Two {{L1}}s you can get~~:		=== Benefits ===
	* ~~A wider sound image (~~the ~~ensemble~~ will ~~sound~~ ''~~bigger~~'')		* For the Audience: Greater separation of instrument and vocal ''voicings''. This is significant as it helps with [[Localization]]
	* ~~A wider coverage area (because~~ of the near 170° horizontal dispersion you don't get a lot more coverage from two {{L1}}s as compared to one).		* For the Performers: Greater separation of the voicings means better monitoring. It is more likely that an individual performer will be able to hear his/her contribution to the mix when there are fewer ''voices'' in the mix ({{L1}} closest to him/her.
	* Greater separation of ~~instrument and vocal ''voicings''. This is significant as it helps with~~ [[Localization]]
			=== Lesser Benefits ===
			* Because of the near 170° horizontal dispersion with the {{L1}} you don't get a lot more coverage from two {{L1}}s as compared to one. You may get a better sense of [[Localization Spaciousness Reverberation\|spaciousness]].
			* Having two {{L1}}s should be louder, does not get you twice the perceived volume.


	The next three sketches address this.		The next three sketches address this.

ST: formatting

2006-11-25T08:30:48Z

formatting

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	=== Avoid: Dual Mono ==		=== Avoid: Dual Mono ===
	[[Image:2L1asPADualMono.png\|frame\|250px\|Avoid Dual Mono\|right]]		[[Image:2L1asPADualMono.png\|frame\|250px\|Avoid Dual Mono\|right]]
	Quoting Cliff-at-Bose		Quoting Cliff-at-Bose

ST: /* One {{L1}} with a Mixer */ Mixer

2006-11-25T08:26:45Z

One {{L1}} with a Mixer: Mixer

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	The short answer is yes! This question comes up frequently in various forms in the discussion here. While Bose recommends one system per performer, this doesn't mean that the system can't be run as a conventional [[PA]]. I've done it on the road to getting to the ideal, and while having more systems is better you can get great sound running several inputs into a mixer into a Bose system.		The short answer is yes! This question comes up frequently in various forms in the discussion here. While Bose recommends one system per performer, this doesn't mean that the system can't be run as a conventional [[PA]]. I've done it on the road to getting to the ideal, and while having more systems is better you can get great sound running several inputs into a mixer into a Bose system.

	== One {{L1}} with a Mixer==		== One {{L1}} with a [[Mixer]] ==
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ST: /* Can I use the {{L1}} as a PA */

2006-11-25T08:25:47Z

Can I use the {{L1}} as a [[PA]]

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	== Can I use the {{L1}} as a [[PA]] ==		== Can I use the {{L1}} as a [[PA]] ==
	The short answer is yes! This question comes up frequently in various forms in the discussion here. While Bose recommends one system per performer, this doesn't mean that the system can't be run as a conventional PA. I've done it on the road to getting to the ideal, and while having more systems is better you can get great sound running several inputs into a mixer into a Bose system.		The short answer is yes! This question comes up frequently in various forms in the discussion here. While Bose recommends one system per performer, this doesn't mean that the system can't be run as a conventional [[PA]]. I've done it on the road to getting to the ideal, and while having more systems is better you can get great sound running several inputs into a mixer into a Bose system.

	== One {{L1}} with a Mixer==		== One {{L1}} with a Mixer==